The leaders of the world must assert common humanity and create a new path, a new map which is fair to all, and establish a new, peaceful coexistence which recognizes the inner equality of all
As early RFK Jr supporters, we abandoned him over his silence on what his happening in Palestine and failure to ultimately hold power accountable. We suspect that you, Dennis, left for similar reasons. I supported your candidacy when you ran for president years ago and would do so again out of your consistent and principled positions.
Same. Haven't 100% abandoned RFK Jr. but am seriously bummed about his complicit silence and lack of leadership sentiment at this time. It will take some public reassessment and sincere intentionality to repair this loss of support, if he is paying attention. (WTF, right?)
Grateful to Dennis and allowing his words to soak in as a lighthouse of awareness at this time.
agreed. i feel my fellow contrarians / conspiracy theorists / critical thinkers / deplorables / anti-vaxers (who isnt given the new definition 93%+ of us meet the criteria)...
we were drawn to his candidacy because it was immediately apparent RFK Jr approached issues with an open mind and showed the willingness to do the hard work of critically thinking through any issue.
to see a lack of nuance in his approach to the israel - hamas war is deflating/saddening. it is perfectly rational to deplore the horrid actions of hamas while recognizing the vast majority of palestinians are stuck btw a rock (isreali apartheid state over gaza + west bank) & hard place (brutality of living under hamas' tyranny - no elections since 2016, cannibalizing water systems to make weapons, etc).
I don't think it's wise to abandon RFK Jr completely. I am angry as hell at Israel, please don't think for a second I have anything good to say about Israel. I'm way, way, way pro-Palestinian, and I cannot stand how Palestinian deaths are only mourned when Israeli deaths are included in the sentence (in Western media.)
As a fellow conspiracy theorist, I think that Cornel West's candidacy was/is/never will be a serious run. I was so excited about him when he first came out, only to hear him insinuate that class based politics aren't his jam (in Dore interview.) I think Cornel West is running as a foil for RFK Jr.
When Cornel drops working class politics to bemoan right wing fascism, I feel like someone turned on MSNBC behind my back. That isn't the words of a person who wants to unite the powerless.
And I think Cornel is doing that on purpose in order to lose.
Because who is the establishment ignoring the most? Besides the artificial controversies generated by misinterpreting random RFK Jr comments surreptitiously recorded during private dinner events, the Democratic mainstream media has completely ignored him. I believe they ignore him because they know he's the biggest threat to Biden (or whoever the hell they put up for us to accept.)
The shadowy forces in our government are very serious about controlling the presidency. RFK Jr's record is very different than any former president's record. His father and uncle were both killed by the government. He has worked his whole life on issues that help people. So I'll get to the point. I think that RFK Jr is saying what he needs to say about Israel in order to stay alive, literally and metaphorically.
Small support for this theory is the constant chatter online that is solely focused on RFK Jr re Israel genociding Gaza. Last I checked Biden was the dude sending them bombs and money. Biden is supposedly the Dem nominee. Trump just spoke to Aipac and it wasn't pretty, not pretty at all. So it sure is curious there's so much online chatter about an independent candidate's position and so little about Biden or Trump.
i went thru a similar stage, believing different versions of what you suggest about RFK Jr's 'stance' on this horrific genocide, Rachel.
i'm still not totally discounting it, tho my doubts about it grow every day. it is possible that you are correct. and for the reasons you believe. (nothing else really makes sense to me.)
since Dennis left the campaign and has been very clear and outspoken on his stance and views with which i'm in complete agreement, it's obvious to me that they could not continue as that team.
thank you for sharing your thoughts here. we'll see what happens. meanwhile, we need ceasefire in Gaza... 3 wks ago...
i can't justify his prolonged silence and just yesterday i heard him speak on the rubin report on youtube. he is biased and one sided in his support of israel, his thoughts on the conflict are rather out of date and he is just spouting talking points just like the neo cons he criticizes. no mention at all about what is happening in gaza. have a listen to what he has to say, i found it shocking that he could be so tone deaf. i'm done with him
RFK Jr. will do great things for our country regarding our governmental agencies and all the corruption in our regulatory agencies. Rebuilding our country will affect the lives of Americans daily more than his opinion about a foreign war he has no control over.
I do not want to be a single-issue voter, so will continue to support RFK Jr. even though I disagree with his perspective about Israel. The other alternatives to RFK Jr. are cartoon world awful.
agree on your basic premise. guess it's not really single-issue decision as much as it is about whether to trust his judgement. are we're heading into WW3 with his blessings and support??? such foolishness as we're witnessing in this situation is deadly. who cares about all this other stuff he can do if we've all been nuked because of the dangerous idiocy happening?
if he's in favor of such atrocities while we (USA) foot the bill and no one (not even he??) considers using that leverage we have (like NOT funding it, perhaps??) then i seriously wonder about his judgement.
don't we choose who to vote for based on how we view their judgement, integrity, authenticity, trustworthiness?? i do.
At this point, RFK Jr.'s support or lack of support have no power.
There is much he could do if president to focus on our country.
But you are right about judgment. It really is a conundrum over his
support of Israel. I personally see Netanyahu as the biggest antisemite
there is since he shares a common ancestry with the people he demonizes.
As there are many people who still believe in the benevolence of our country's
governmental agencies, I think RFK Jr. is still holding on to a nostalgic notion that
Israel is a noble country. I see Netanyahu as rotten to the core, especially with undermining
his own citizens with his contract with Pfizer. (I digress).
I don't think RFK Jr. favors atrocities, yet as the genocide continues, it will appear more and more that way. He needs to step back, call the situation a humanitarian crisis, and speak openly of Congress not financing the slaughter.
I also have abandoned RFK for his abject failure of leadership and courage on this issue. And he was just about my last political hope. Why don't you run, Dennis? And fill that void?
Imperative for Jewish Voices for Peace, who have great moral authority, to confront RFK relentlessly until he "sees the light.." This is the huge moral issue right now. Permanent siege of his office?
I refuse to support for RFK,Jr. because of his morally monstrous support for Zionism, Nazism under another name. Please run for president, Mr. Kucinich. Only you have the power and the light.
Trump is more pro Israel than Kennedy, Jr since he's a Noahide Law supporter.
Do you think Trump is better because he fast tracked vaccines then said they are safe and great when they are not either one?! Or the bill he signed that continued to allow spying on us? His veto of stopping our involvement in the Yemen War? Not pardoning Assange? I could say more LOL
Well, actually you didn't mislead because you didn't say you supported Trump so I just didn't take it the way you intended.
As for West. He sang praises TO Anthony Fauci. After all the hate that went out to the unvaccinated I could never support anyone that thinks so highly of Fauci.
Same here. Deeply disappointed in RFK, Jr., after admiring his courage and conviction on so many critical issues. He now sounds like a different person, and there's no way I will continue to support him.
It's that "sounding like a different person" that is so confounding. Seems many people sense that. If only he could at least sit down with the Pope who I assume has made some tepid statements, not that the MSM would report them. Maybe Kennedy doesn't have time to view the pictures of children, devastated, lost, suffering. Is there one picture that would get through to him in his soul?
it is bizarre, right? don't think it's ignorance or lack of awareness. it is very difficult to ignore and obviously Dennis Kucinich couldn't either. hugely significant. don't know...
Title:" Hamas founder’s son says ‘barbaric’ group must be removed from power | Cuomo"
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader he was in Israeli prisons for years....not in a house in Israel. In their prisons.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
"...when I was growing up in Lebanon, remember Lebanon was the only country to accept the third wave of Palestinian refugees into the country in 1974, '75. And I would hear the conversations on the tables in the restaurant, you know, people talking to each other. "Oh, the bloody Jews. Look what they're doing to the Palestinians." The general teaching, not in my household, obviously, because we are Christians, but the general teaching across the Arabic world is Israel is Satan. This has not changed It actually got worse because in the Palestinian Territories, they teach the children to hate the Jews and this is why you see the barbarism happening. But the barbarism is not new, and it's all not directed at Israel only. You know, this is why people think, "Oh my gosh, Hamas, you know, we need to feel sorry for the poor Palestinians." People need to understand that throughout the Middle East, they have zero tolerance for minorities, and Israel is the bullseye in their eye because they could not kick Israelis out..."
"...But when you look at the Palestinians, sometimes they even fake the images of the children who are suffering. They've done that in the past. We have seen them do it. This is not to minimize children's suffering, but we need to understand that the perpetrators of evil continue to perpetrate their evil. And we cannot stand for that..." "...the Palestinians, everywhere they go, they cause a problem. That's the problem. That's why Egypt doesn't want them, you know? I mean, that's why they said "No way." All they have to do is look at what the Palestinians did in Jordan and what the Palestinians did in Lebanon. They destroyed Lebanon. King Hussein of Jordan bulldozed 30,000 of them back in 1974, '75, and kicked them out. His own wife is a Palestinian, and he doesn't wanna take any more Palestinians. They are a problem anywhere they go. And that's why they do not want them..." An author, a national security expert, and founder of Act for America, Brigitte Gabriel. Brigitte knows firsthand truth about the Middle East problems!
Feel free to disagree with the son of a Hamas leader and all the others that agree with him. We all choose the ones we believe but there is no disputing the Hamas charter!
When I HEARD AND SAW people celebrating what Hamas that is when I stopped listening to one side and searched both sides including reading the Hamas Charter which totally shows they are the ones for genocide. Israel has a right to defend themselves.
Hamas targets innocent civilians Israel does not and the son of a Hamas leader that I gave his quote told it exactly right!
It's sad when there is any loss of civilian lives but the ones that target them are the ones responsible. Israel warned them and told them where to go for safety but Hamas wouldn't let some of them leave.
Why has RFK taken such a hard-line take on Israel? I don't know. Last May, I suspect he was afraid of getting the Jeremy Corbyn treatment and get painted as an "anti-semite"? Didn't want to get his wife in trouble? Doesn't want to lose some of his big money doners? Doesn't want the heat from the Israel lobby? Or, maybe he is somehow just that willfully ignorant of the history/facts? (more reason to talk with Max Blumenthal to keep his promise with Jimmy Dore) At the time, the issue wasn't front-line news so maybe it made some political sense then.
Regardless, now, with Gaza getting the "Dresden" & Samuel 15:3 treatment, RFk's hard-line position doesn't even make political sense to me. He could easily just continue to strongly supports Israel & it's right to defend itself, but say carpet-bombing Gaza isn't "defense". He could adopt Jeremy Sach's recent advice (in "Common Dreams"; the "Kennedy Beacon" recently deleted Sach's Nov 2nd article) to push for diplomacy & peace. A “Peace” stance would set him apart as an independent from the Dems/Repubs.
The most frustrating thing is that his stance will hurt his credibility with young people. They don't watch corporate propaganda news. If they dig into this issue, RFK's position won't hold up to scrutiny. If he doesn't tell the truth on this subject, he damages his integrity & credibility on all subjects. Young people have been burned by Bernie; they have an aversion to BS and hypocrisy. RFK is supposed to be a "truth teller." Telling the truth would be a lot easier than continuing to repeat the same BS Israel lobby talking points he's memorized and been parroting over and over again for months!
P.S. like Jimmy Dore, I believe that RFK is potentially destroying (or at least harming) his campaign. My comments are coming from a independent-minded "fan." In Jan '21, I saw RFK (and Max Blumentahl) speak at the Defeat the Mandates rally in DC . Last March, I was one of the first contributors to his campaign. Last April, I took a 3 day detour on a Amtrak railpass to attend his presidential announcement in Boston (only saw the first 5 minutes of his speech before I had to catch my return train!). Just before Oct 7th, I volunteered at a MI event and got a selfie. Now, it's hard to muster any enthusiasm to go out and canvass, get him on the ballot, etc. ... Maybe later.
<< "Kennedy Beacon" recently deleted Sach's Nov 2nd article >> i didn't realize that. (been busy with family stuff... so yeah... a month behind) this is waaay over the line... not sure i can continue to support him. losing Dennis Kucinich and deleting Jeffrey Sachs's excellent article from Nov 2... do i have to start copying and saving these?? THANK YOU, Guy. i'm with you... also early supporter... yadda, yadda. SMH.
As for Jimmy Dore that obviously didn't have a clue about Israel or Palestine the time he was interviewing Kennedy, Jr. rants many times without getting facts on what he's ranting about.
Kennedy, Jr. has many pro Israel supporters, too. He would lose voters on this issue no matter which side he is on.
Max putting out the hate he did getting cash and clicks off of it I have no respect for him, either. I did a research on a couple things he said and found him to be not be accurate!
Trump is more pro Israel than Kennedy, Jr. is since he's a Noahide law supporter but has Jimmy Dore ever mentioned that?
Kennedy, Jr.'s views on Israel has been for many years, long before he got in the race so no one not the lobby would have anything to do with his views. I totally agree with what he said in Knoxville about that.
When I SAW AND HEARD the people that celebrated what Hamas did which is disgusting I decided to research both sides and Kennedy, Jr. is right! Also, Israel has a right to defend themselves. Reading the Hamas Charter clearly shows they are the ones wanting genocide. They target innocent civilians! Israel does not.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"Kennedy, Jr.'s views on Israel has been for many years, long before he got in the race so no one not the lobby would have anything to do with his views."
. . .
Really? I find that difficult to believe. Months ago, I read RFK's book "American Values". No mention of 'Israel", "Palestine," or "Gaza." There is some mention of "Jews", but I believe in the context of discussing his grandfather and WWII (looking at Amazon book sample index on-line). Can you show me any references to where (prior to his campaign) where he publicly expressed his views on Israel/Palestine?
Back in late May (Or June?), after RFK jr got heat from the Israel lobby for praising Roger Walters, RFK repudiated Roger Walters and he walked in a NYC parade literally holding an Israeli flag with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. In July, after being accused by Democratic Congress members of being "anti-semitic" he spoke with Boteach at a NYC event and recited memorized Israel Lobby talking points that are easily debunked. Since then, he's declined to speak with Max Blumenthal ("The Grayzone") on the subject (who had dinner with him before his campaign launch and had no idea about his purported position on Israel).
are you talking about Roger Waters? or is there a Roger Walters, too? seems to me that if RFK Jr already had these views pre-campaign, Dennis K would never have joined the team in the first place. this current anti-peace stance seems to be the breaking point between them, tho that's just my guess.
How about you showing me where before he got in the race that is views on Israel is not the same as now?
Or where he was ever against Israel's right to exist? Against their right to defend themselves? We all will believe what we choose to.
And while you are at it prove he was lying when he said the reason he pulled the Waters comment was because he didn't know some of his views and when he found out that is why he took that comment down.
After all the hate Max Blumenthal put out getting clicks and cash off of I have no respect for him! Again we all choose to believe what we believe to be the most creditable.
I don't see anything about my other comments on what the son of a Hamas leader said? Those that celebrated what Hamas did?
Your comment about the 'son of a Hama leader" was truncated.
My question was sincere, I haven't yet tried to research what RFK's views on Israel were before 2023. You're the one who claimed to know RFK Jr's position "for years." Back up your claim.
If you don't think Max is a credible source, perhaps Jeremy Sachs would be more to your liking? Sach's recently published ""Israel’s Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace" -- Friends Do Not Let Friends Commit Crimes Against Humanity ("Common Dreams").
BTW, Sachs endorsed RFK's independent launch in the "Kennedy Beason" Substack on Oct. 9th in "Three Cheers for RFK Jr.’s Candidacy"
In that article, Sach's "refer[s] readers interested in the detailed history of this long saga to the wise and scholarly study by my esteemed colleague Professor Rashid Khalid, The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine. Historian Ian Black, in his book Enemies and Neighbors: Arabs and Jews in Palestine and Israel 1917-2017 ...”
I've got both books on order from my library so I can become more knowledgable on the history myself.
Saudi Arabia’s former ambassador to the US Prince Bandar bin Sultan has called out the Palestinian leadership for its rejection of the UAE-Israel peace deal.
"...in the Hamas Constitution they say that Jihad is the path and dying for God is their greatest wish"
"the Israeli Declaration of Independence it says we extend our hand to all neighboring states and their peoples in neighboring states and their peoples in neighborliness can you hear the difference between the Muslims and the Jews between we want to die in Jihad and we offer our hand in peace this is important because the Palestinians live by their values..."
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
You are right it is my claim based on the history Kennedy, Jr. has given on why he is pro Israel that he has that view well before getting in the race because the details he has given I do not believe he just came up with that since being in the race AND because I have never heard him say he is against Israel defending themselves! I am not going to go back to search that so you can just say I didn't back that up! I don't care because the research I have done tells me he is right about Israel and would have nothing to do with any lobby.
RFK's SuperPac Censored Jeremy Sach's for Calling for Gaza Peace! Recently, (Rumble 11/9/23 “RFK Jr. Pushes WORLD WAR III Over OIL!” @12:40), Jimmy Dore discussed RFK's Nov 3rd tweet thanking Jeffery Sach's for tweeting:
'By coming out for urgent diplomacy and peace in Israel and Ukraine, RFK, Jr will do the right thing and win the election, hands down.' Thanks Jeff!”
Ironically, the previous day, on Nov 2nd, the "Kennedy Beacon" Substack (Pro-RFK "American Values 2024" Super PAC) censored Jeremy Sach's call for diplomacy & peace! A few hours after his thoughtful article, "Israel’s Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace" -- Friends Do Not Let Friends Commit Crimes Against Humanity, was posted onto the “Beacon” Substack, it was deleted! *1
Sachs concluded by writing: "If Israel swallows Netanyahu’s poison *2 that “this is a time for war,” Israel will isolate itself from the rest of the world and pay a devastating price. ... Israel’s friends, starting with the U.S., must help it choose diplomacy over war. Friends do not let friends commit crimes against humanity, much less provide them with the finances and arms to do so." RFK himself has long suffered from censorship on vaccine issues, etc. Considering RFK's anti-censorship position, it's rather ironic RFK's Super PAC censored itself!
RFK claims he is “telling the truth to the American people” ... except for Palestine? Since May, when he backtracked on his praise for Roger Walters, his stance on Israel-Palestine has lacked the nuance, truth telling, and open-mindedness RFK has displayed on other important issues. Last Summer, RFK promised Jimmy Dore he would debate/talk with Max Blumenthal. So far, RFK hasn't (just like Dr. Peter Hotez has ducked debating RFK on vaccines).
Will RFK ever come out for “diplomacy & peace... will [he] do the right thing...?” Hopefully, … but I've almost lost hope for him as a “peace” & “truth teller” candidate. He's missed so many chances.
*1: You can find the "Page Not Found" link by "Googling": "Kennedy Beacon" "Israel's Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace". Sach's article can still be found on the "Common Dreams" website.
*2: During his televised announcement of the Gaza ground invasion Prime Minister Netanyahu said, "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible"; referring to Samuel 15:3, literally "going Biblical" on Gaza: https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1718360354764238929
I don't think that word "Debate" was what Kennedy, Jr. said when talking to Jimmy Dore? I heard him just say "talk" then it got full blown up into saying Kennedy, Jr. said he would debate him. Jimmy Dore had no clue about Israel when he was interviewing Kennedy, Jr. That was obvious.
Jimmy Dore has a habit of ranting about some things without getting his facts straight FIRST!
Title: "Jimmy Dore Reports Fake News About RFK Jr."
And by the way Lori is very much pro Palestine unless she has changed her views that I don't know. I listen to both sides but now I am definitely pro Israel!
So would I. Back when he ran for POTUS I was a gullible propagandized Neocon Dupe. No more! The Neocons and Zionists of AIPAC are Nazis in my book because they exhibit a Nazi mindset. Our nation has become the world's foremost polluter and terrorist state because of the Nazi mindset. This mindset was inculcated by the German Nazis immediately after 1945. As demonstrated in the Zionist Apartheid State of Israel, the Zionists and Kahanists have demonstrated the same Nazi mindset with their Final Solution to the Palestinian Problem. Sound familiar?
Trump and Biden are similar on Israel but on many other issues Kennedy, Jr. is the best but I agree with Kennedy, Jr. on Israel. At first I didn't only because I was listening to everyone supporting Hamas instead of doing research!
After I heard the protestors celebrating what Hamas did which was disgusting I decided to research both sides. Reading the Hamas Charter totally shows they are the ones for genocide. Not Israel and so much more until I totally agree with Kennedy, Jr. now.
Title:" Hamas founder’s son says ‘barbaric’ group must be removed from power | Cuomo"
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader he was in Israeli prisons for years....not in a house in Israel. In their prisons.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
"...when I was growing up in Lebanon, remember Lebanon was the only country to accept the third wave of Palestinian refugees into the country in 1974, '75. And I would hear the conversations on the tables in the restaurant, you know, people talking to each other. "Oh, the bloody Jews. Look what they're doing to the Palestinians." The general teaching, not in my household, obviously, because we are Christians, but the general teaching across the Arabic world is Israel is Satan. This has not changed It actually got worse because in the Palestinian Territories, they teach the children to hate the Jews and this is why you see the barbarism happening. But the barbarism is not new, and it's all not directed at Israel only. You know, this is why people think, "Oh my gosh, Hamas, you know, we need to feel sorry for the poor Palestinians." People need to understand that throughout the Middle East, they have zero tolerance for minorities, and Israel is the bullseye in their eye because they could not kick Israelis out..."
"...But when you look at the Palestinians, sometimes they even fake the images of the children who are suffering. They've done that in the past. We have seen them do it. This is not to minimize children's suffering, but we need to understand that the perpetrators of evil continue to perpetrate their evil. And we cannot stand for that..." "...the Palestinians, everywhere they go, they cause a problem. That's the problem. That's why Egypt doesn't want them, you know? I mean, that's why they said "No way." All they have to do is look at what the Palestinians did in Jordan and what the Palestinians did in Lebanon. They destroyed Lebanon. King Hussein of Jordan bulldozed 30,000 of them back in 1974, '75, and kicked them out. His own wife is a Palestinian, and he doesn't wanna take any more Palestinians. They are a problem anywhere they go. And that's why they do not want them..." An author, a national security expert, and founder of Act for America, Brigitte Gabriel. Brigitte knows firsthand truth about the Middle East problems!
Urging "our" government to do the humane thing is useless. "Our" government doesn't give a goddam about us as a people. It rules for the Capitalist Empire and nothing else.
The entity "We the People" are responsible for our government. There are quite a lot of eugenics and empire-minded people occupying the seats of power now. Get them out and let's put people like Kucinich in there.
Wonderfully written. Who can disagree? America preaches about international law and crimes against humanity but the supplies the weapons of death and calls it self-defense.
This will not last and will lead to our own demise
Good morning Dennis! Thank you for your clarion call to peace making now. Is the world ready to demand this of ourselves? Here are three heroes you may ot may not already know and be able to collaborate with.
Francis Boyle the International lawyer and lifelong bioweapons expert with legal strategy to bring a ceasefire immediately:
Craig Mokhiber of UN peacekeeping diplomacy for the past 40 years. He resigned in frustration last week and lays out a path to peace in this detailed resignation letter:
And Sam Husseini on CHD tv a few weeks ago with essential questions for the prospects of ongoing war or accountability for our bioweaoons industry. Picking up where RFK Jr dropped the ball to connect the dots for all of us:
It seems we cannot vote our way out of this without worthy candidates.
So what is left for the average American?
I suspect that in Nazi Germany those who did not agree went along with the program out of fear of their lives and livelihoods and families.
When we trot out to our mailboxes in April to send our tax payments to the federal government we are also doing so out of fear of reprisal. And yet, like the German citizens, our adherence is our complicity.
History will not look back and hold compassion for those who did not have the courage to stand up and say "NO MORE."
We can turn our heads and pretend that we have no choice, or we can choose to do something different.
There is power in numbers. But I fear that fear will prevent us from making those choices.
And then we, like the German people, will reap what we sow.
Has she talked about the WEF? If she agrees with them on climate change? In all the interviews I listened to her I didn't hear her say a word about that.
good question. me neither... haven't heard her address that directly yet. tho that might not mean anything. maybe we need to dig into all the great info she has on her website where she lays everything out. hubs says i will love reading it all because it's so in-depth. haven't done that yet... so i will!!!!!!!!
she's just trying to get some exposure as they all work so hard to 'invisibilize' her. i know she's very much against that Willow project... and talks about what a disaster it is/will be.
To add to the genocidal horror is the ecocide being committed in our name; the US military is the largest institutional emitter of global warming gases in the world. And not to forget that bombing destroys not only human life, but also the lives of other creatures.
100%! It’s hard to believe the US ruling class is really concerned with environment and climate change when war is the preferred option over peace. Military vehicles and weapons aren’t exactly manufactured for best fuel economy and “green energy”.
How can a culture that gave us Freud and Einstein and Chomsky and so many others like them, a culture that once gave us Yeshua the Nazarene, a culture that suffered through, not only the Nazis but millennia of European anti-Semitism and pogroms give us Gaza? And how can we, through our tax dollars and our votes, facilitate it?
Listened to recent conversation btw Marianne Williamson and Gabor Mate today. Subject of abused becoming abusers was discussed, among many other evidently true traits of humanity. Odd and frequently observed to happen, they agreed.
Again, I think we need to at least take note of the strong likelihood that some of those who died during the Hamas incursion on October 7 were Israeli civilians killed by the IDF. I have lately been re-reading Douglas Reed's "The Controversy of Zion." Strongly recommended. I would also like to recommend three of my own recent publications:
Thank you for your steadfast condemnation of war as a strategy of global domination and profit, and for your moving description of the soul-killing effects it has on all of humanity. Yours is a voice of sanity in a world gone mad.
Your clarion call for peace is heard and well received by many. People and warriors who now bathe in the power and glory of our Empire should heed history. Empires end as they overextend and then turn their mighty forces against their own people who are in rebellion against the madness. We are in the most dangerous time I can remember in my 77 years of life, and I asked daily, where are the leaders we need, where are the sober cooler heads, when will we as fellow human beings yell enough is enough, stop the wars, stop the killing, and save our and the environment’s survival on Planet Earth.
Thanks for voicing the truth and the ongoing hope of true political resolve and commitment to peace. You have always pointed us in the right direction. If only more would listen and hear, watch and see!
I am so proud of you Mr. Kucinich. You have always lived your values and continue to do so. Thank you for leaving Kennedy’s campaign. Apparently Kennedy does not walk his talk. Good on you for leaving! I have done the same.
The old paradigms are in need of transformation. When people ask who’s side I’m on in this train wreck of every war and now the Middle East, I say I’m on the side of the children and humanity. Every step I take, I breathe in peace. We must erase judgement in the name of unconditional love.
As early RFK Jr supporters, we abandoned him over his silence on what his happening in Palestine and failure to ultimately hold power accountable. We suspect that you, Dennis, left for similar reasons. I supported your candidacy when you ran for president years ago and would do so again out of your consistent and principled positions.
Same. Haven't 100% abandoned RFK Jr. but am seriously bummed about his complicit silence and lack of leadership sentiment at this time. It will take some public reassessment and sincere intentionality to repair this loss of support, if he is paying attention. (WTF, right?)
Grateful to Dennis and allowing his words to soak in as a lighthouse of awareness at this time.
agreed. i feel my fellow contrarians / conspiracy theorists / critical thinkers / deplorables / anti-vaxers (who isnt given the new definition 93%+ of us meet the criteria)...
we were drawn to his candidacy because it was immediately apparent RFK Jr approached issues with an open mind and showed the willingness to do the hard work of critically thinking through any issue.
to see a lack of nuance in his approach to the israel - hamas war is deflating/saddening. it is perfectly rational to deplore the horrid actions of hamas while recognizing the vast majority of palestinians are stuck btw a rock (isreali apartheid state over gaza + west bank) & hard place (brutality of living under hamas' tyranny - no elections since 2016, cannibalizing water systems to make weapons, etc).
we want peace.
I don't think it's wise to abandon RFK Jr completely. I am angry as hell at Israel, please don't think for a second I have anything good to say about Israel. I'm way, way, way pro-Palestinian, and I cannot stand how Palestinian deaths are only mourned when Israeli deaths are included in the sentence (in Western media.)
As a fellow conspiracy theorist, I think that Cornel West's candidacy was/is/never will be a serious run. I was so excited about him when he first came out, only to hear him insinuate that class based politics aren't his jam (in Dore interview.) I think Cornel West is running as a foil for RFK Jr.
When Cornel drops working class politics to bemoan right wing fascism, I feel like someone turned on MSNBC behind my back. That isn't the words of a person who wants to unite the powerless.
And I think Cornel is doing that on purpose in order to lose.
Because who is the establishment ignoring the most? Besides the artificial controversies generated by misinterpreting random RFK Jr comments surreptitiously recorded during private dinner events, the Democratic mainstream media has completely ignored him. I believe they ignore him because they know he's the biggest threat to Biden (or whoever the hell they put up for us to accept.)
The shadowy forces in our government are very serious about controlling the presidency. RFK Jr's record is very different than any former president's record. His father and uncle were both killed by the government. He has worked his whole life on issues that help people. So I'll get to the point. I think that RFK Jr is saying what he needs to say about Israel in order to stay alive, literally and metaphorically.
Small support for this theory is the constant chatter online that is solely focused on RFK Jr re Israel genociding Gaza. Last I checked Biden was the dude sending them bombs and money. Biden is supposedly the Dem nominee. Trump just spoke to Aipac and it wasn't pretty, not pretty at all. So it sure is curious there's so much online chatter about an independent candidate's position and so little about Biden or Trump.
i went thru a similar stage, believing different versions of what you suggest about RFK Jr's 'stance' on this horrific genocide, Rachel.
i'm still not totally discounting it, tho my doubts about it grow every day. it is possible that you are correct. and for the reasons you believe. (nothing else really makes sense to me.)
since Dennis left the campaign and has been very clear and outspoken on his stance and views with which i'm in complete agreement, it's obvious to me that they could not continue as that team.
thank you for sharing your thoughts here. we'll see what happens. meanwhile, we need ceasefire in Gaza... 3 wks ago...
i can't justify his prolonged silence and just yesterday i heard him speak on the rubin report on youtube. he is biased and one sided in his support of israel, his thoughts on the conflict are rather out of date and he is just spouting talking points just like the neo cons he criticizes. no mention at all about what is happening in gaza. have a listen to what he has to say, i found it shocking that he could be so tone deaf. i'm done with him
RFK Jr. will do great things for our country regarding our governmental agencies and all the corruption in our regulatory agencies. Rebuilding our country will affect the lives of Americans daily more than his opinion about a foreign war he has no control over.
I do not want to be a single-issue voter, so will continue to support RFK Jr. even though I disagree with his perspective about Israel. The other alternatives to RFK Jr. are cartoon world awful.
Thanks for your post. Thought provoking.
agree on your basic premise. guess it's not really single-issue decision as much as it is about whether to trust his judgement. are we're heading into WW3 with his blessings and support??? such foolishness as we're witnessing in this situation is deadly. who cares about all this other stuff he can do if we've all been nuked because of the dangerous idiocy happening?
if he's in favor of such atrocities while we (USA) foot the bill and no one (not even he??) considers using that leverage we have (like NOT funding it, perhaps??) then i seriously wonder about his judgement.
don't we choose who to vote for based on how we view their judgement, integrity, authenticity, trustworthiness?? i do.
At this point, RFK Jr.'s support or lack of support have no power.
There is much he could do if president to focus on our country.
But you are right about judgment. It really is a conundrum over his
support of Israel. I personally see Netanyahu as the biggest antisemite
there is since he shares a common ancestry with the people he demonizes.
As there are many people who still believe in the benevolence of our country's
governmental agencies, I think RFK Jr. is still holding on to a nostalgic notion that
Israel is a noble country. I see Netanyahu as rotten to the core, especially with undermining
his own citizens with his contract with Pfizer. (I digress).
I don't think RFK Jr. favors atrocities, yet as the genocide continues, it will appear more and more that way. He needs to step back, call the situation a humanitarian crisis, and speak openly of Congress not financing the slaughter.
I also have abandoned RFK for his abject failure of leadership and courage on this issue. And he was just about my last political hope. Why don't you run, Dennis? And fill that void?
Imperative for Jewish Voices for Peace, who have great moral authority, to confront RFK relentlessly until he "sees the light.." This is the huge moral issue right now. Permanent siege of his office?
Seems pretty clear that something much bigger is in the way. Don't think it's that he doesn't see the light.
me too
Dennis kuccinich cans still run as a democrat, else we'll get Gavin the demoRat
won't be voting for Gavin... that's for sure!
I refuse to support for RFK,Jr. because of his morally monstrous support for Zionism, Nazism under another name. Please run for president, Mr. Kucinich. Only you have the power and the light.
Trump is way better than RFK.
Trump is more pro Israel than Kennedy, Jr since he's a Noahide Law supporter.
Do you think Trump is better because he fast tracked vaccines then said they are safe and great when they are not either one?! Or the bill he signed that continued to allow spying on us? His veto of stopping our involvement in the Yemen War? Not pardoning Assange? I could say more LOL
Strong points! I sort of misled you. I'm currently favoring Cornel West, actually. Thanks for replying!
Well, actually you didn't mislead because you didn't say you supported Trump so I just didn't take it the way you intended.
As for West. He sang praises TO Anthony Fauci. After all the hate that went out to the unvaccinated I could never support anyone that thinks so highly of Fauci.
How about Jill Stein?
Same here. Deeply disappointed in RFK, Jr., after admiring his courage and conviction on so many critical issues. He now sounds like a different person, and there's no way I will continue to support him.
It's that "sounding like a different person" that is so confounding. Seems many people sense that. If only he could at least sit down with the Pope who I assume has made some tepid statements, not that the MSM would report them. Maybe Kennedy doesn't have time to view the pictures of children, devastated, lost, suffering. Is there one picture that would get through to him in his soul?
it is bizarre, right? don't think it's ignorance or lack of awareness. it is very difficult to ignore and obviously Dennis Kucinich couldn't either. hugely significant. don't know...
He has supported Israel long before he got in this race so he sounds no different on that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qmeQkDJ7qQ
Title: "WATCH what the media won’t show you:"
Israel does everything it can to protect life. Hamas does everything it can to end it.
Do you know what free Palestine REALLY means??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlmRutknMQ
Title: "Young Palestinian Girl EXPOSES the Truth About the FREE PALESTINE Movement"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4UPLdDlrZM
Title:" Hamas founder’s son says ‘barbaric’ group must be removed from power | Cuomo"
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader he was in Israeli prisons for years....not in a house in Israel. In their prisons.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
"...when I was growing up in Lebanon, remember Lebanon was the only country to accept the third wave of Palestinian refugees into the country in 1974, '75. And I would hear the conversations on the tables in the restaurant, you know, people talking to each other. "Oh, the bloody Jews. Look what they're doing to the Palestinians." The general teaching, not in my household, obviously, because we are Christians, but the general teaching across the Arabic world is Israel is Satan. This has not changed It actually got worse because in the Palestinian Territories, they teach the children to hate the Jews and this is why you see the barbarism happening. But the barbarism is not new, and it's all not directed at Israel only. You know, this is why people think, "Oh my gosh, Hamas, you know, we need to feel sorry for the poor Palestinians." People need to understand that throughout the Middle East, they have zero tolerance for minorities, and Israel is the bullseye in their eye because they could not kick Israelis out..."
"...But when you look at the Palestinians, sometimes they even fake the images of the children who are suffering. They've done that in the past. We have seen them do it. This is not to minimize children's suffering, but we need to understand that the perpetrators of evil continue to perpetrate their evil. And we cannot stand for that..." "...the Palestinians, everywhere they go, they cause a problem. That's the problem. That's why Egypt doesn't want them, you know? I mean, that's why they said "No way." All they have to do is look at what the Palestinians did in Jordan and what the Palestinians did in Lebanon. They destroyed Lebanon. King Hussein of Jordan bulldozed 30,000 of them back in 1974, '75, and kicked them out. His own wife is a Palestinian, and he doesn't wanna take any more Palestinians. They are a problem anywhere they go. And that's why they do not want them..." An author, a national security expert, and founder of Act for America, Brigitte Gabriel. Brigitte knows firsthand truth about the Middle East problems!
Even if Hamas "started" it as you say, the past month is at a new level of barbarism and the US has blood on its hands, I shudder to think, our hands.
I do not actually believe Hamas started it.
Feel free to disagree with the son of a Hamas leader and all the others that agree with him. We all choose the ones we believe but there is no disputing the Hamas charter!
When I HEARD AND SAW people celebrating what Hamas that is when I stopped listening to one side and searched both sides including reading the Hamas Charter which totally shows they are the ones for genocide. Israel has a right to defend themselves.
Hamas targets innocent civilians Israel does not and the son of a Hamas leader that I gave his quote told it exactly right!
It's sad when there is any loss of civilian lives but the ones that target them are the ones responsible. Israel warned them and told them where to go for safety but Hamas wouldn't let some of them leave.
Why has RFK taken such a hard-line take on Israel? I don't know. Last May, I suspect he was afraid of getting the Jeremy Corbyn treatment and get painted as an "anti-semite"? Didn't want to get his wife in trouble? Doesn't want to lose some of his big money doners? Doesn't want the heat from the Israel lobby? Or, maybe he is somehow just that willfully ignorant of the history/facts? (more reason to talk with Max Blumenthal to keep his promise with Jimmy Dore) At the time, the issue wasn't front-line news so maybe it made some political sense then.
Regardless, now, with Gaza getting the "Dresden" & Samuel 15:3 treatment, RFk's hard-line position doesn't even make political sense to me. He could easily just continue to strongly supports Israel & it's right to defend itself, but say carpet-bombing Gaza isn't "defense". He could adopt Jeremy Sach's recent advice (in "Common Dreams"; the "Kennedy Beacon" recently deleted Sach's Nov 2nd article) to push for diplomacy & peace. A “Peace” stance would set him apart as an independent from the Dems/Repubs.
The most frustrating thing is that his stance will hurt his credibility with young people. They don't watch corporate propaganda news. If they dig into this issue, RFK's position won't hold up to scrutiny. If he doesn't tell the truth on this subject, he damages his integrity & credibility on all subjects. Young people have been burned by Bernie; they have an aversion to BS and hypocrisy. RFK is supposed to be a "truth teller." Telling the truth would be a lot easier than continuing to repeat the same BS Israel lobby talking points he's memorized and been parroting over and over again for months!
P.S. like Jimmy Dore, I believe that RFK is potentially destroying (or at least harming) his campaign. My comments are coming from a independent-minded "fan." In Jan '21, I saw RFK (and Max Blumentahl) speak at the Defeat the Mandates rally in DC . Last March, I was one of the first contributors to his campaign. Last April, I took a 3 day detour on a Amtrak railpass to attend his presidential announcement in Boston (only saw the first 5 minutes of his speech before I had to catch my return train!). Just before Oct 7th, I volunteered at a MI event and got a selfie. Now, it's hard to muster any enthusiasm to go out and canvass, get him on the ballot, etc. ... Maybe later.
<< "Kennedy Beacon" recently deleted Sach's Nov 2nd article >> i didn't realize that. (been busy with family stuff... so yeah... a month behind) this is waaay over the line... not sure i can continue to support him. losing Dennis Kucinich and deleting Jeffrey Sachs's excellent article from Nov 2... do i have to start copying and saving these?? THANK YOU, Guy. i'm with you... also early supporter... yadda, yadda. SMH.
Thank you for your comment. Very thoughtful. I feel the same way
As for Jimmy Dore that obviously didn't have a clue about Israel or Palestine the time he was interviewing Kennedy, Jr. rants many times without getting facts on what he's ranting about.
Kennedy, Jr. has many pro Israel supporters, too. He would lose voters on this issue no matter which side he is on.
Max putting out the hate he did getting cash and clicks off of it I have no respect for him, either. I did a research on a couple things he said and found him to be not be accurate!
Trump is more pro Israel than Kennedy, Jr. is since he's a Noahide law supporter but has Jimmy Dore ever mentioned that?
Kennedy, Jr.'s views on Israel has been for many years, long before he got in the race so no one not the lobby would have anything to do with his views. I totally agree with what he said in Knoxville about that.
When I SAW AND HEARD the people that celebrated what Hamas did which is disgusting I decided to research both sides and Kennedy, Jr. is right! Also, Israel has a right to defend themselves. Reading the Hamas Charter clearly shows they are the ones wanting genocide. They target innocent civilians! Israel does not.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"Kennedy, Jr.'s views on Israel has been for many years, long before he got in the race so no one not the lobby would have anything to do with his views."
. . .
Really? I find that difficult to believe. Months ago, I read RFK's book "American Values". No mention of 'Israel", "Palestine," or "Gaza." There is some mention of "Jews", but I believe in the context of discussing his grandfather and WWII (looking at Amazon book sample index on-line). Can you show me any references to where (prior to his campaign) where he publicly expressed his views on Israel/Palestine?
Back in late May (Or June?), after RFK jr got heat from the Israel lobby for praising Roger Walters, RFK repudiated Roger Walters and he walked in a NYC parade literally holding an Israeli flag with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. In July, after being accused by Democratic Congress members of being "anti-semitic" he spoke with Boteach at a NYC event and recited memorized Israel Lobby talking points that are easily debunked. Since then, he's declined to speak with Max Blumenthal ("The Grayzone") on the subject (who had dinner with him before his campaign launch and had no idea about his purported position on Israel).
(e.g. see Miko Peled's letter https://peaceandplanetnews.org/an-open-letter-to-robert-f-kennedy-jr/
or his comments in a recent video https://rumble.com/v3uotlm-max-blumenthal-state-dept-jill-stein-2024-miko-peled-and-dan-cohen-join-ohi.html (@12:00 -- 25:00; especially 21:00 -- 25:00)
are you talking about Roger Waters? or is there a Roger Walters, too? seems to me that if RFK Jr already had these views pre-campaign, Dennis K would never have joined the team in the first place. this current anti-peace stance seems to be the breaking point between them, tho that's just my guess.
How about you showing me where before he got in the race that is views on Israel is not the same as now?
Or where he was ever against Israel's right to exist? Against their right to defend themselves? We all will believe what we choose to.
And while you are at it prove he was lying when he said the reason he pulled the Waters comment was because he didn't know some of his views and when he found out that is why he took that comment down.
After all the hate Max Blumenthal put out getting clicks and cash off of I have no respect for him! Again we all choose to believe what we believe to be the most creditable.
I don't see anything about my other comments on what the son of a Hamas leader said? Those that celebrated what Hamas did?
Your comment about the 'son of a Hama leader" was truncated.
My question was sincere, I haven't yet tried to research what RFK's views on Israel were before 2023. You're the one who claimed to know RFK Jr's position "for years." Back up your claim.
If you don't think Max is a credible source, perhaps Jeremy Sachs would be more to your liking? Sach's recently published ""Israel’s Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace" -- Friends Do Not Let Friends Commit Crimes Against Humanity ("Common Dreams").
BTW, Sachs endorsed RFK's independent launch in the "Kennedy Beason" Substack on Oct. 9th in "Three Cheers for RFK Jr.’s Candidacy"
In that article, Sach's "refer[s] readers interested in the detailed history of this long saga to the wise and scholarly study by my esteemed colleague Professor Rashid Khalid, The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine. Historian Ian Black, in his book Enemies and Neighbors: Arabs and Jews in Palestine and Israel 1917-2017 ...”
I've got both books on order from my library so I can become more knowledgable on the history myself.
You can hear the entire context of the son of a Hamas leader here....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4UPLdDlrZM
Title: "Hamas founder’s son says ‘barbaric’ group must be removed from power"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmwwrjwmPE
Title:
Son Of HAMAS On The Ignorance Of #FreePalestine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQ0UxEgXTQ
Title:
A New Message for Hamas from Son of Hamas Leader
The Hamas Charter proves they will not have peace!
Also.....
https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2020/10/05/Saudi-Arabia-s-Prince-Bandar-bin-Sultan-calls-out-Palestinian-leaders-over-peace-deal
Saudi Arabia’s former ambassador to the US Prince Bandar bin Sultan has called out the Palestinian leadership for its rejection of the UAE-Israel peace deal.
Do you know what free Palestine REALLY means??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlmRutknMQ
Title:
Young Palestinian Girl EXPOSES the Truth About the FREE PALESTINE Movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzbHU2kO2_w
Title:
"The TRUTH about Palestinian civilians"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF95GenB1JI
Title:
Why are there so many Palestinian casualties? (The Israeli perspective)
Channel: travelingisrael.com Oren Cahanovitc
"...in the Hamas Constitution they say that Jihad is the path and dying for God is their greatest wish"
"the Israeli Declaration of Independence it says we extend our hand to all neighboring states and their peoples in neighboring states and their peoples in neighborliness can you hear the difference between the Muslims and the Jews between we want to die in Jihad and we offer our hand in peace this is important because the Palestinians live by their values..."
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
You are right it is my claim based on the history Kennedy, Jr. has given on why he is pro Israel that he has that view well before getting in the race because the details he has given I do not believe he just came up with that since being in the race AND because I have never heard him say he is against Israel defending themselves! I am not going to go back to search that so you can just say I didn't back that up! I don't care because the research I have done tells me he is right about Israel and would have nothing to do with any lobby.
Same.
RFK's SuperPac Censored Jeremy Sach's for Calling for Gaza Peace! Recently, (Rumble 11/9/23 “RFK Jr. Pushes WORLD WAR III Over OIL!” @12:40), Jimmy Dore discussed RFK's Nov 3rd tweet thanking Jeffery Sach's for tweeting:
'By coming out for urgent diplomacy and peace in Israel and Ukraine, RFK, Jr will do the right thing and win the election, hands down.' Thanks Jeff!”
Ironically, the previous day, on Nov 2nd, the "Kennedy Beacon" Substack (Pro-RFK "American Values 2024" Super PAC) censored Jeremy Sach's call for diplomacy & peace! A few hours after his thoughtful article, "Israel’s Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace" -- Friends Do Not Let Friends Commit Crimes Against Humanity, was posted onto the “Beacon” Substack, it was deleted! *1
Sachs concluded by writing: "If Israel swallows Netanyahu’s poison *2 that “this is a time for war,” Israel will isolate itself from the rest of the world and pay a devastating price. ... Israel’s friends, starting with the U.S., must help it choose diplomacy over war. Friends do not let friends commit crimes against humanity, much less provide them with the finances and arms to do so." RFK himself has long suffered from censorship on vaccine issues, etc. Considering RFK's anti-censorship position, it's rather ironic RFK's Super PAC censored itself!
RFK claims he is “telling the truth to the American people” ... except for Palestine? Since May, when he backtracked on his praise for Roger Walters, his stance on Israel-Palestine has lacked the nuance, truth telling, and open-mindedness RFK has displayed on other important issues. Last Summer, RFK promised Jimmy Dore he would debate/talk with Max Blumenthal. So far, RFK hasn't (just like Dr. Peter Hotez has ducked debating RFK on vaccines).
Will RFK ever come out for “diplomacy & peace... will [he] do the right thing...?” Hopefully, … but I've almost lost hope for him as a “peace” & “truth teller” candidate. He's missed so many chances.
*1: You can find the "Page Not Found" link by "Googling": "Kennedy Beacon" "Israel's Chance to Turn Carnage into Peace". Sach's article can still be found on the "Common Dreams" website.
*2: During his televised announcement of the Gaza ground invasion Prime Minister Netanyahu said, "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible"; referring to Samuel 15:3, literally "going Biblical" on Gaza: https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1718360354764238929
<< Considering RFK's anti-censorship position, it's rather ironic RFK's Super PAC censored itself! >> indeed!!
thankfully, Common Dreams does still have the article. just donated to them again in deep appreciation. thanks again, Guy.
I don't think that word "Debate" was what Kennedy, Jr. said when talking to Jimmy Dore? I heard him just say "talk" then it got full blown up into saying Kennedy, Jr. said he would debate him. Jimmy Dore had no clue about Israel when he was interviewing Kennedy, Jr. That was obvious.
Jimmy Dore has a habit of ranting about some things without getting his facts straight FIRST!
Title: "Jimmy Dore Reports Fake News About RFK Jr."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BLCLzXsyrU
And by the way Lori is very much pro Palestine unless she has changed her views that I don't know. I listen to both sides but now I am definitely pro Israel!
So would I. Back when he ran for POTUS I was a gullible propagandized Neocon Dupe. No more! The Neocons and Zionists of AIPAC are Nazis in my book because they exhibit a Nazi mindset. Our nation has become the world's foremost polluter and terrorist state because of the Nazi mindset. This mindset was inculcated by the German Nazis immediately after 1945. As demonstrated in the Zionist Apartheid State of Israel, the Zionists and Kahanists have demonstrated the same Nazi mindset with their Final Solution to the Palestinian Problem. Sound familiar?
Trump and Biden are similar on Israel but on many other issues Kennedy, Jr. is the best but I agree with Kennedy, Jr. on Israel. At first I didn't only because I was listening to everyone supporting Hamas instead of doing research!
After I heard the protestors celebrating what Hamas did which was disgusting I decided to research both sides. Reading the Hamas Charter totally shows they are the ones for genocide. Not Israel and so much more until I totally agree with Kennedy, Jr. now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qmeQkDJ7qQ
Title: "WATCH what the media won’t show you:"
Israel does everything it can to protect life. Hamas does everything it can to end it.
Do you know what free Palestine REALLY means??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlmRutknMQ
Title: "Young Palestinian Girl EXPOSES the Truth About the FREE PALESTINE Movement"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4UPLdDlrZM
Title:" Hamas founder’s son says ‘barbaric’ group must be removed from power | Cuomo"
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader he was in Israeli prisons for years....not in a house in Israel. In their prisons.
"Hamas started this war. This is not their first war against Israel. We have previous wars where they initiated the war against Israel and the world and the global public bent so fast and they begged for a cease fire in the past 3 wars against Hamas and Israel had to submit to public opinion and we did not finish them in the precious 3 wars every time Hamas came back stronger and this time the voices rise again asking to stop and cease the fire. What will happen tomorrow if they cease fire now? The job is not finished. This problem has been going on for 35 years..." "Israel says evacuate civilians leaflets through media give them opportunity of 20 days to evacuate but they didn't. They still give shelter to Hamas. In this case Israel is not responsible tor any harm that happens to civilians..."
Mosab Hassan Yousef who is the son of a Hamas founding leader.
"...because this conflict is not about the land I've already told you that even before the sixth day war and even before 1948 the Palestinians were trying to wipe out the Jews here is another example take Gaza in 2015 Israeli withdrew from the Gaza Strip Gaza is an Israeli and jew-free area the Palestinians get more money than any other group on the planet from the US from the European Union from Arab countries from from the UN and what do they do with this money infrastructure education no they build tunnels and buy weapons to kill Jews why do they do that the Hamas Constitution makes it very clear the first sentence is Israel will exist until Islam wipes it out it doesn't say we want peace it doesn't say we want a Palestinian state it clearly says until Islam wipes it out they want a Muslim caliphate I respect Hamas for one thing only for actually expressing and being clear about what they want which is to eliminate Israel personally I want the Palestinians to have a democratic state with human rights and freedoms..." Oren Cahanovitc
"...when I was growing up in Lebanon, remember Lebanon was the only country to accept the third wave of Palestinian refugees into the country in 1974, '75. And I would hear the conversations on the tables in the restaurant, you know, people talking to each other. "Oh, the bloody Jews. Look what they're doing to the Palestinians." The general teaching, not in my household, obviously, because we are Christians, but the general teaching across the Arabic world is Israel is Satan. This has not changed It actually got worse because in the Palestinian Territories, they teach the children to hate the Jews and this is why you see the barbarism happening. But the barbarism is not new, and it's all not directed at Israel only. You know, this is why people think, "Oh my gosh, Hamas, you know, we need to feel sorry for the poor Palestinians." People need to understand that throughout the Middle East, they have zero tolerance for minorities, and Israel is the bullseye in their eye because they could not kick Israelis out..."
"...But when you look at the Palestinians, sometimes they even fake the images of the children who are suffering. They've done that in the past. We have seen them do it. This is not to minimize children's suffering, but we need to understand that the perpetrators of evil continue to perpetrate their evil. And we cannot stand for that..." "...the Palestinians, everywhere they go, they cause a problem. That's the problem. That's why Egypt doesn't want them, you know? I mean, that's why they said "No way." All they have to do is look at what the Palestinians did in Jordan and what the Palestinians did in Lebanon. They destroyed Lebanon. King Hussein of Jordan bulldozed 30,000 of them back in 1974, '75, and kicked them out. His own wife is a Palestinian, and he doesn't wanna take any more Palestinians. They are a problem anywhere they go. And that's why they do not want them..." An author, a national security expert, and founder of Act for America, Brigitte Gabriel. Brigitte knows firsthand truth about the Middle East problems!
I support your effort to distinguish your critical voice for peace in this historical time. Please keep going!
Urging "our" government to do the humane thing is useless. "Our" government doesn't give a goddam about us as a people. It rules for the Capitalist Empire and nothing else.
The entity "We the People" are responsible for our government. There are quite a lot of eugenics and empire-minded people occupying the seats of power now. Get them out and let's put people like Kucinich in there.
Wonderfully written. Who can disagree? America preaches about international law and crimes against humanity but the supplies the weapons of death and calls it self-defense.
This will not last and will lead to our own demise
Good morning Dennis! Thank you for your clarion call to peace making now. Is the world ready to demand this of ourselves? Here are three heroes you may ot may not already know and be able to collaborate with.
Francis Boyle the International lawyer and lifelong bioweapons expert with legal strategy to bring a ceasefire immediately:
https://francisaboyle.substack.com/p/on-israel-lawyer-who-applied-genocide
Craig Mokhiber of UN peacekeeping diplomacy for the past 40 years. He resigned in frustration last week and lays out a path to peace in this detailed resignation letter:
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/1/craig_mokhiber_un_resignation_israel_gaza
And Sam Husseini on CHD tv a few weeks ago with essential questions for the prospects of ongoing war or accountability for our bioweaoons industry. Picking up where RFK Jr dropped the ball to connect the dots for all of us:
https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20231021/16302775/Insidious-Bioweapons-Cabal-With-Sam-Husseini.htm
Much love and appreciation to you!!!
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It seems we cannot vote our way out of this without worthy candidates.
So what is left for the average American?
I suspect that in Nazi Germany those who did not agree went along with the program out of fear of their lives and livelihoods and families.
When we trot out to our mailboxes in April to send our tax payments to the federal government we are also doing so out of fear of reprisal. And yet, like the German citizens, our adherence is our complicity.
History will not look back and hold compassion for those who did not have the courage to stand up and say "NO MORE."
We can turn our heads and pretend that we have no choice, or we can choose to do something different.
There is power in numbers. But I fear that fear will prevent us from making those choices.
And then we, like the German people, will reap what we sow.
And History will not be kind to us.
Please ask RFK to talk about the necessity of your early proposal for a Department of Peace.
I would like to hear from Cornel West.
Could you do an interview with him please.
It seems he is being pushed aside intentionally.
Marianne Williamson also talks about Dept of Peace and many other very sensible and much needed shifts in policy and approach.
Has she talked about the WEF? If she agrees with them on climate change? In all the interviews I listened to her I didn't hear her say a word about that.
good question. me neither... haven't heard her address that directly yet. tho that might not mean anything. maybe we need to dig into all the great info she has on her website where she lays everything out. hubs says i will love reading it all because it's so in-depth. haven't done that yet... so i will!!!!!!!!
she's just trying to get some exposure as they all work so hard to 'invisibilize' her. i know she's very much against that Willow project... and talks about what a disaster it is/will be.
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To add to the genocidal horror is the ecocide being committed in our name; the US military is the largest institutional emitter of global warming gases in the world. And not to forget that bombing destroys not only human life, but also the lives of other creatures.
100%! It’s hard to believe the US ruling class is really concerned with environment and climate change when war is the preferred option over peace. Military vehicles and weapons aren’t exactly manufactured for best fuel economy and “green energy”.
Agree!! Nordstream pipeline explosion was also a huge environmental disaster.
How can a culture that gave us Freud and Einstein and Chomsky and so many others like them, a culture that once gave us Yeshua the Nazarene, a culture that suffered through, not only the Nazis but millennia of European anti-Semitism and pogroms give us Gaza? And how can we, through our tax dollars and our votes, facilitate it?
Listened to recent conversation btw Marianne Williamson and Gabor Mate today. Subject of abused becoming abusers was discussed, among many other evidently true traits of humanity. Odd and frequently observed to happen, they agreed.
zactly
Again, I think we need to at least take note of the strong likelihood that some of those who died during the Hamas incursion on October 7 were Israeli civilians killed by the IDF. I have lately been re-reading Douglas Reed's "The Controversy of Zion." Strongly recommended. I would also like to recommend three of my own recent publications:
https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/11/a-dream-jesus-on-a-white-horse/
https://www.unz.com/article/review-against-our-better-judgment-by-alison-weir/
https://www.claritypress.com/product/our-country-then-and-now/
Thank you for your steadfast condemnation of war as a strategy of global domination and profit, and for your moving description of the soul-killing effects it has on all of humanity. Yours is a voice of sanity in a world gone mad.
Your clarion call for peace is heard and well received by many. People and warriors who now bathe in the power and glory of our Empire should heed history. Empires end as they overextend and then turn their mighty forces against their own people who are in rebellion against the madness. We are in the most dangerous time I can remember in my 77 years of life, and I asked daily, where are the leaders we need, where are the sober cooler heads, when will we as fellow human beings yell enough is enough, stop the wars, stop the killing, and save our and the environment’s survival on Planet Earth.
Respect all life.
Thanks for voicing the truth and the ongoing hope of true political resolve and commitment to peace. You have always pointed us in the right direction. If only more would listen and hear, watch and see!
I am so proud of you Mr. Kucinich. You have always lived your values and continue to do so. Thank you for leaving Kennedy’s campaign. Apparently Kennedy does not walk his talk. Good on you for leaving! I have done the same.
Thank you, Dennis.
The old paradigms are in need of transformation. When people ask who’s side I’m on in this train wreck of every war and now the Middle East, I say I’m on the side of the children and humanity. Every step I take, I breathe in peace. We must erase judgement in the name of unconditional love.