The subjugation and annihilation of innocent civilians, bombed into the dust of "collateral damage," does not support America, Israel or the West's claim for moral high ground and a path to peace.
Generally I like this Dennis Kucinich piece. However I see some holes in it. One criticism is the continued use of Israeli figures of 1400 Israeli deaths on Oct 7. This is an exaggeration and lie. About 50% of those people were IDF soldiers, many of them women. They were not civilians. Further, it is questionable whether that many were even killed that day. I have read the number is about 700 including more than half being IDF. While all deaths bring grief, I cannot but hold Israel totally responsible for creating this mess. 75 yrs of Brutal and illegal Occupation! It is amazing that it took the Palestinians this long to react.
Other relevant facts not often mentioned, and not here either. Hamas broke thru Israel's barrier wall with the intent of kidnapping some soldiers for hostage for the few 1000 kidnapped Palestinians being held by Israel. The lack of strong IDF presence was a shock to Hamas as to the rest of the world.
Since Israel knew Hamas had an action in the works from Egyptian reports to Netanyahu and he did nothing, it leads me to believe Israel saw this as its 9-11; its False Flag to begin the genocidal assault they had been wanting for years. Israel even told the IDF to stand down for 6-10 hours to allow some mayhem/murder to occur as its excuse for its genocidal plans.
One other point is that Israel was committed to never allow for peace with Palestinians. Many of their leaders for years clearly stated this. I recall a video of Netanyahu in a fundamentalist home being asked about creation of 2 State solution. He stated emphatically "never" under his watch. And that is the official position of Israel.
One of the tactics was to create Hamas as a divisive force with the PLO to help ensure a Palestinian State would never be formed. In fact Israel funded Hamas.
People can call for peace and ceasefire now but where were they for 75 yrs when the Palestinians were removed, ethnic cleansing style as the US did with the Native Americans. They were calling for help. They were dying by the 1000's. Their children are so deformed and underdeveloped from the starvation, the trauma, the injuries. This is a slow death tactic; ie, genocide. The Palestinans tried all kinds of peaceful tactics but were always excluded and rebuffed. At some point violence is all that is left and it must be respected, as horrible a choice as it is. The images are finally getting thru to the comfortable Americans who live in safety with more food than they can eat. Now the fear of death brings calls for "let's be nice folks and stop killing children!"
Stop the support of Israel is needed. Stop funding this racist genocide. Get the US military out of the ME. 5000 military people are now in Israel i have read this week. Make the demands concrete. Stop supporting a goverment that is so vile--the US government I mean.
I only wish that you were President. I know you tried...and I tried to help, too.
Expecting the US government, under the current duopoly, to act in any manner other than as a blind and obedient supplier of weapons and funds to Israel, is a waste of time. Given the fact that our ongoing support is illegal, as Israel has weapons of mass destruction, specifically nuclear weapons which they refuse to acknowledge and the U.S. knows the truth, but refuses to admit the facts that they know. Ask Mordechai Vanunu, an Israeli scientist whistleblower, who has spent decades in one Israeli prison after another, for telling the truth. If our government is that corrupt, some thing new is needed. I only wish I knew what it might be. Keep on fighting, Dennis.
it's incomprehenable what we and the world are witnessing in Gaza in Ukraine in Yeman in Lebanon in Iraq, along our border with mexico just to name a few places that immediately come to mind. We are complicit in all the above atrocities mentioned above. Trillions of our tax dollars spent killing people around the globe by our elected government officials sociopaths obsession to colonize the world.
These atrocities will come back to haunt us. The world is watching how we are treating them. Even here in the states people are beginning to see how deranged our elected leaders are. Blind to our needs here at home yet determined to commit genocide in our name with our tax dollars to those that don't listen to the sound of their war drums and comply to their jaded dream of world order in their name. we must put an end to this craziness. end them by hook or by crook or by your vote
All that invades my mind now as a Professor Emerita of cultural anthropologist (specializing in folkloristics and specializing in the oral history of the Arab world) is the latest tragic chapter in the Israeli occupation and persecution of the Palestinian people. From the beginning in 1947 when Palestinians witnessed their homes and villages reduced to rubble and citizens of over 100 villages massacred (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war), Palestinians in the occupied territories of what was supposed to be the future Palestine mostly tried to resist loss of their livelihoods and their homes by the pen rather than the sword. I stand with JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace) in its powerful and well-reasoned resistance to zionism and their support for the rights of Palestinians.
"Mr. Netanyahu has vowed to wipe out Hamas, which is estimated to have at least 40,000 members. If the ration of 50 -1 holds up, that is 50 Palestinians will die for every Hamas member killed -- then every single Palestinian in Gaza would be killed. This is not without possibility, perhaps the colonizers’ plan."
I do believe this has been the plan all along: Genocide of the Palestinian people, appropriation of all lands and natural resources held by the Palestinian peoples (both in Gaza and the West Bank), and more Israeli settlers living in the former homes of Palestinians.
Thank you, Dennis, for speaking out for those whose voices have been drown out in the mainstream media. Thank you for not remaining in the employ of a candidate who sympathizes with those who commit genocide against the Palestinians. (Have you thought of running in the Green Party 2024 primary yourself?)
I hope you’ve talked to Bobby about this. A lot of people have dropped their support of him because of his extremely strong pro-Israel statements in interviews. It makes me sad. I would hope to see him come out with a more nuanced conversation about the situation. You could have him look at Gabor Mate’s interview with his daughter Hannah on his YouTube channel. He should really make a public statement unless he’s worried about political implications/those who would disagree with a reasonable stance. Thanks for the great work you do!
It IS as gruesome or worse ... than your description, Dennis. It is a pitiful , horrible, thing that we are doing, .... in our support and re-arming of the Israelis, because there IS NO WAY OUT for these people, in the Gaza strip. I wonder IF we will all live through this disgusting time, or whether this will bring about the convergence of so many other nations, against the U.S., that it will become the same "hell on Earth", which the U.S. has inflicted upon SO MANY other sovereign Nations... as it has plundered everything from People to Natural resources... The U.S. historical record is full of inequity, struggle, slavery, economic subjugation of its own people (via the "Federal Reserve"... (a private banking cartel, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Federal government... but was merely NAMED "THE FEDERAL RESERVE", in order to make people believe that it IS a part of the Federal Government. ) It's about as Federal as FEDERAL EXPRESS ! ) lol This situation in Gaza MUST stop. I would even be willing to help start a movement towards a National Strike, to bring pressure upon Biden and Congress... to step down... and Have Publicly = Funded Elections (with no outside money allowed.) I have actually written this up so often, that I wrote up a permanent description of the system I envision, with all the details. Please let e know, if you'd like to look it over. Take care, Dennis, and thank you for this truthful and insightful writing. I definitely believe YOU would have made the best president, when you ran. I would have voted for you, and did organize a public event... to popularize your campaign. You ARE "The Man" !
Generally I like this Dennis Kucinich piece. However I see some holes in it. One criticism is the continued use of Israeli figures of 1400 Israeli deaths on Oct 7. This is an exaggeration and lie. About 50% of those people were IDF soldiers, many of them women. They were not civilians. Further, it is questionable whether that many were even killed that day. I have read the number is about 700 including more than half being IDF. While all deaths bring grief, I cannot but hold Israel totally responsible for creating this mess. 75 yrs of Brutal and illegal Occupation! It is amazing that it took the Palestinians this long to react.
Other relevant facts not often mentioned, and not here either. Hamas broke thru Israel's barrier wall with the intent of kidnapping some soldiers for hostage for the few 1000 kidnapped Palestinians being held by Israel. The lack of strong IDF presence was a shock to Hamas as to the rest of the world.
Since Israel knew Hamas had an action in the works from Egyptian reports to Netanyahu and he did nothing, it leads me to believe Israel saw this as its 9-11; its False Flag to begin the genocidal assault they had been wanting for years. Israel even told the IDF to stand down for 6-10 hours to allow some mayhem/murder to occur as its excuse for its genocidal plans.
One other point is that Israel was committed to never allow for peace with Palestinians. Many of their leaders for years clearly stated this. I recall a video of Netanyahu in a fundamentalist home being asked about creation of 2 State solution. He stated emphatically "never" under his watch. And that is the official position of Israel.
One of the tactics was to create Hamas as a divisive force with the PLO to help ensure a Palestinian State would never be formed. In fact Israel funded Hamas.
People can call for peace and ceasefire now but where were they for 75 yrs when the Palestinians were removed, ethnic cleansing style as the US did with the Native Americans. They were calling for help. They were dying by the 1000's. Their children are so deformed and underdeveloped from the starvation, the trauma, the injuries. This is a slow death tactic; ie, genocide. The Palestinans tried all kinds of peaceful tactics but were always excluded and rebuffed. At some point violence is all that is left and it must be respected, as horrible a choice as it is. The images are finally getting thru to the comfortable Americans who live in safety with more food than they can eat. Now the fear of death brings calls for "let's be nice folks and stop killing children!"
Stop the support of Israel is needed. Stop funding this racist genocide. Get the US military out of the ME. 5000 military people are now in Israel i have read this week. Make the demands concrete. Stop supporting a goverment that is so vile--the US government I mean.
I only wish that you were President. I know you tried...and I tried to help, too.
Expecting the US government, under the current duopoly, to act in any manner other than as a blind and obedient supplier of weapons and funds to Israel, is a waste of time. Given the fact that our ongoing support is illegal, as Israel has weapons of mass destruction, specifically nuclear weapons which they refuse to acknowledge and the U.S. knows the truth, but refuses to admit the facts that they know. Ask Mordechai Vanunu, an Israeli scientist whistleblower, who has spent decades in one Israeli prison after another, for telling the truth. If our government is that corrupt, some thing new is needed. I only wish I knew what it might be. Keep on fighting, Dennis.
it's incomprehenable what we and the world are witnessing in Gaza in Ukraine in Yeman in Lebanon in Iraq, along our border with mexico just to name a few places that immediately come to mind. We are complicit in all the above atrocities mentioned above. Trillions of our tax dollars spent killing people around the globe by our elected government officials sociopaths obsession to colonize the world.
These atrocities will come back to haunt us. The world is watching how we are treating them. Even here in the states people are beginning to see how deranged our elected leaders are. Blind to our needs here at home yet determined to commit genocide in our name with our tax dollars to those that don't listen to the sound of their war drums and comply to their jaded dream of world order in their name. we must put an end to this craziness. end them by hook or by crook or by your vote
**where are the makers of peace**
Outstanding work. Thanks Dennis.
All that invades my mind now as a Professor Emerita of cultural anthropologist (specializing in folkloristics and specializing in the oral history of the Arab world) is the latest tragic chapter in the Israeli occupation and persecution of the Palestinian people. From the beginning in 1947 when Palestinians witnessed their homes and villages reduced to rubble and citizens of over 100 villages massacred (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war), Palestinians in the occupied territories of what was supposed to be the future Palestine mostly tried to resist loss of their livelihoods and their homes by the pen rather than the sword. I stand with JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace) in its powerful and well-reasoned resistance to zionism and their support for the rights of Palestinians.
Sabra Webber
"It is time to reengage with our own humanity." Wish that more US citizens thought that way!
Thanks Dennis for covering this while most of the West is ignoring this!
Amen, Mr Kucinich.
At last - some sanity!
Much gratitude to Dennis Kucinich!
We The People must find ways to take action against the sociopaths who hold power.
Brilliant, crystal clear. Thank you.
Speaks directly to the heart as always. Thank you Dennis. We love you.
"Mr. Netanyahu has vowed to wipe out Hamas, which is estimated to have at least 40,000 members. If the ration of 50 -1 holds up, that is 50 Palestinians will die for every Hamas member killed -- then every single Palestinian in Gaza would be killed. This is not without possibility, perhaps the colonizers’ plan."
I do believe this has been the plan all along: Genocide of the Palestinian people, appropriation of all lands and natural resources held by the Palestinian peoples (both in Gaza and the West Bank), and more Israeli settlers living in the former homes of Palestinians.
Thank you, Dennis, for speaking out for those whose voices have been drown out in the mainstream media. Thank you for not remaining in the employ of a candidate who sympathizes with those who commit genocide against the Palestinians. (Have you thought of running in the Green Party 2024 primary yourself?)
Love to all here, including DK. We appreciate your tireless truth telling .
I hope you’ve talked to Bobby about this. A lot of people have dropped their support of him because of his extremely strong pro-Israel statements in interviews. It makes me sad. I would hope to see him come out with a more nuanced conversation about the situation. You could have him look at Gabor Mate’s interview with his daughter Hannah on his YouTube channel. He should really make a public statement unless he’s worried about political implications/those who would disagree with a reasonable stance. Thanks for the great work you do!
Very well said!
This guy also gives me ideas to consider.
https://youtu.be/yBumTNZvVvk?si=1haOtUkNv-o_Mhbp
It IS as gruesome or worse ... than your description, Dennis. It is a pitiful , horrible, thing that we are doing, .... in our support and re-arming of the Israelis, because there IS NO WAY OUT for these people, in the Gaza strip. I wonder IF we will all live through this disgusting time, or whether this will bring about the convergence of so many other nations, against the U.S., that it will become the same "hell on Earth", which the U.S. has inflicted upon SO MANY other sovereign Nations... as it has plundered everything from People to Natural resources... The U.S. historical record is full of inequity, struggle, slavery, economic subjugation of its own people (via the "Federal Reserve"... (a private banking cartel, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Federal government... but was merely NAMED "THE FEDERAL RESERVE", in order to make people believe that it IS a part of the Federal Government. ) It's about as Federal as FEDERAL EXPRESS ! ) lol This situation in Gaza MUST stop. I would even be willing to help start a movement towards a National Strike, to bring pressure upon Biden and Congress... to step down... and Have Publicly = Funded Elections (with no outside money allowed.) I have actually written this up so often, that I wrote up a permanent description of the system I envision, with all the details. Please let e know, if you'd like to look it over. Take care, Dennis, and thank you for this truthful and insightful writing. I definitely believe YOU would have made the best president, when you ran. I would have voted for you, and did organize a public event... to popularize your campaign. You ARE "The Man" !