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KUCINICH for President 2024?! 👀

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I know you’re running for Congress now,

but I can still dream.

The only person I ever voted for in a democratic primary was an Independent; Bernie Sanders. I voted Uncommitted this year against the genocide in Gaza.

An Independent Dennis Kucinich dark horse candidate would be incredible! You would be more fierce than Bernie by miles!! Run, Dennis, Run!

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What nonsense. This is a man who knew what was happening and has waited until now to tell us all.

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ARE you following him? he has been talking about things for some time now. ??

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Well, you must be deaf

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He made multiple speeches against invasion of Iraq. Obama made one that no one can seem to find

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Could Ron Paul be his running mate?

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Back when Dennis couldn't get on the ballot in Indiana, I was wishing for just that, lol! The dnc is toast....

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Dennis, rather than dropping out, it seems Joe Biden was more dropkicked out. Yet I'm still told to vote blue no matter who because Trump bad.

https://bracingviews.substack.com/p/did-biden-drop-out-or-was-he-dropkicked

I hope you win your race. Wish there was a world where the DNC picked someone like you instead of an obedient puppet.

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I don't think that world exists, Bill. Seems like the Party is run by a nameless committee, the same as the executive branch.

I'm an Independent, so I'm insulted less than I suppose a Democrat is, but it's not information that should be kept from any voter you respect. All voters have a right to know Biden's fraility, and who is making executive decisions in our country. To LIE about this requires a very degenerate moral compass. Biden is in no condition to be held entirely responsible. This is a Democratic Party LIE.

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Joe was backstabbed by the DNC, just like Jon Snow was by the Night’s watch - for democracy!

https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/for-democracy-dnc-got-biden-obama-movie

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He deserved it

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Kucinich is a true fighter for American democracy. Maybe one day it will come back.

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I think at this point that democracy has been gone so long that the best we can hope for is a kinder, gentler plutocracy, easy on the imperialism.

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Good to hear from you again Denis.

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How about you run for president as a Democrat at the same time you run for Representative from your district in Ohio?

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YES. DO IT, DENNIS! I will door knock

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The party of Democracy killed Democracy. Sounds like a suicide.

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Death by LYING to the American voter

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The DNC doesn't even believe in democracy.

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Truth. Dennis Kucinich again reveals the folks behind the curtain. A few power brokers in the DNC choose the candidate—definitely not the Democratic primary voters. It’s completely broken.

That being said, and thank you again Dennis, I would vote for anyone the DNC comes up with against the would-be dictatorship the Rs have chosen for us. This is terribly sad. How can we possibly change this?

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I don't even live in the USA but I knew the machinations of the DNC.

What is wrong with you all?

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Like George Harrison, "when you're brainwashed by the media, you're brainwashed by the best." It's effective for controlling the herds. Corporate control of everything from the media, political parties, every sector of the economy worth monopolizing has the whole damn shootin' match locked in the vault of big money.

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Inattention! Totally wrapped up in BS.

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Dems are far more polite when genociding.

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Another boomer Karen NPC spouting the myths the media told her.

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I may be open to hearing your argument, and probably even agree with you, but you really shouldn't start out with name-calling and deriding someone you've never spoken to. I'm kind of surprised to find someone like you at Dennis Kucinich blog--do you know anything about him and his approach to governing?

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Older than dirt here,been around this block, screw the status quo,dems and gops are shit. Adams did not want a two party system for this reason. Amazing to me,how many sheep are still locked into this useless exercise.

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Who is running things?

The same people, groups, organizations, and institutions that have been running things for a long, Long time: America's autocratic, oligarchic, plutocratic, patriarchal Ruling Political Class.

And its Samurai, the Deep State: the military-industrial-congressional complex, the banking­ finance-printing press web, the techno-infotainment matrix, the petro-food-guns-n-drugs cartels, the pharmo-medico­ insurance-legal cabals, and the surveillance-secrecy-security-censorship-propaganda panopticon that owns and operates, and commands and controls the politicians and bureaucrats at center stage in America's Reality TV extravaganza, and America's $ 1 = I Vote system of government and governance that gets, puts, and keeps them there.

That's who is running things.

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This just sounds like sour grapes. Trump/Vance, The Heritage Foundation 2025 Project , Corporate and Billionaire power, The Federalist Society and their placing of Christian nationalists on the Supreme Court (which now flaunts its bribes calling them tips, flies flags supporting the Jan 6 coup and christian nationalism, has made the role of the president into a Kingship with a court of corporate oligarchs, and given itself powers over federal agencies rather than the experts who know best) are terrifying developments . Democracy does not survive kleptocracy. Trump is an existential threat to democracy, Now is not the time to whine about the DNC. President Biden will go down in history as one of the best presidents since FDR working for the common good. His difficult decision to step out of the race, putting his own ego and desires aside for the good of the country because of failing health, speaks volumes to his courage, his character, his wisdom, and his dedication to work for the people. I am anxious to see what he can do during the rest of his presidency. Kamala Harris is more than qualified, she can continue the great work that she and President have begun. With so many of women’s rights being taken away, she as a women is uniquely qualified to fight back and at 73 y/o I have waited long enough to see a woman as President, Trump will never be able to see her as a worthy opponent. He will always feel superior just because he is a man, and it will be his undoing. The battle is different than ever before, it is Oligarchical Christofascism vs democracy, I don’t want to live in a world that could look much like the fictional Handmaid’s Tale. Now is the time to unite and make sure that not only Trump is not elected but the many who would like an authoritarian government in the US are not allowed positions of power. I urge you to put your beefs with the DNC on the back burner and support VP Harris for the sake of our democracy.

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However you rationalize voting for genocide.

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Feral, it is highly insulting and disrespectful that you would accuse me of voting for genocide or that President Biden supports the killing of civilians, I am opposed to the horrific atrocities and civilian deaths caused by Hamas , and the imbalanced response by Israel, I know that I am not privy to all the complicated negotiation processes. President Biden called for a ceasefire in Gaza as he condemned the actions of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He has tried to send medical supplies, food, water and support to the Palestinian people, I don’t think for a minute that you supported Hamas' attack in October 5 that killed 1,200 people in Israel, mostly civilians, and militants took about 250 hostage. If you want to condemn anyone , how about Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas. Neither care about the rules of war or the horrific loss of civilians or civilian infrastructure,

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That you wail about my tone shows that you know I am right.

Ignore what Biden says. Pay attention to what he does.

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Hamas attack! How come.

Iron Dome shut down so Hamas could come through the border!!!!!!!

Read something other than the daily trash.

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Jenny, I agree the middle east has been a terrible human rights disaster for centuries. It is very complex, the leaders are not the people. There is no such thing as a protest vote. Not voting for now Harris because of this one issue , would be a vote for Trump and then you will havE no chance of having your voice heard. .stay in the fight, vote for the Democrates who have more who are sympathetic to wanting a two state solution to benefits both the people of Israel and the the Palestinians. Both sides have legitimate grievances , and both sides have engaged in human rights violations, Centuries of strife will not be settled by allowing Trump into office. He will side with authoritarian bullies that just want to use a country for ta heir own monetary gain, Kleptocracy destroyers democracy, If we want to protect the majority of all people regardless of race, gender, country of origin, etc, then we have to fight for democracy, We live on the spaceship Earth and need to support LIFE

please watch this

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An awful lot of words to try an obfuscate a basic point. Israel is committing genocide with conscious willing American participation. Not only that, but Biden could stop this today with a single phone call.

You make excuses.

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I think you make foolish assumptions, .what in the world makes you think .Biden could make one call and stop this? Making actions on false assumptions is a fools game

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Maybe you should tell your Hamas buddies to wear some god-damn uniforms.

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Please go away tired of elitist Liberal asses.

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very mature

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The Biden admin is sponsoring Israel's ongoing genocide of Gaza and you turn a blind eye because you hate/fear Trump so much. That is A LOT more terrifying.

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Well said.

Chris Hedges tells it like it is:

July 22, 2024 By CHRIS HEDGES

My Thoughts on Biden Dropping Out

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/geopolitics/us-politics/msg2196/#msg2196

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Merideth, the situation is much more complicated than you indicate. President Biden has sent aid and has called for ceasefire, He doesn’t have that kind of control. .where is your outrage at Hamas and Benjamin Netanyahu? If Trump gets in you can get used to loving in a world much like the Handmaids Tale,

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Israel is using US bombs and ammo to mass-murder Palestinians. Biden can cut off the bombs, weapons and money we send Israel at any moment. Violates the Leahy Act to send them, in fact, since Israel is comitting war crimes. Can also impose sanctions. Israel only exists w/ US support, so Biden admin has a lot of leverage it has deliberately chosen not to use.

This kind of genocide apologia by Dems such as yourself is driving many ppl away from the Democratic Party. It's a sign of fascism, in fact.

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Aid? I thought it was bombs. Joe has never met a war he didn’t support wholeheartedly. He and you are warmongers. Never ever pretend to be for peace ever again. Ukraine could end tomorrow. Biden won’t let it.

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"It's complicated!" = "I am looking for an excuse."

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BINGO!

Related:

The reason the top dogs in Israel authorized, after the attack began on October 7, 2023, the "Hannibal Doctrine" to DO THAT is because they wanted their EXCUSE to go full FINAL SOLUTION on Gaza.

The following pictures of vehicles incinerated on October 7, 2023 provide irrefutable evidence that those vehicles, and those Israeli hostages inside them along with Hamas soldiers, could only have been destroyed that way by Israeli Hannibal MURDEROUS Doctrine authorized Helicopter Gun Ships and/or Tank fire. Hamas had only small arms. They COULD NOT have done that, but were blamed anyway.

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-080724184606-27601430.png

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-080724184609-2771734.png

But because of media legerdemain, doubletalk and deliberately repeated slander against Hamas by most of the media, most people think that is a "conspiracy theory"...

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If Hamas were acting half as heinously as is regularly claimed, why does Israel present so much evidence which turns out to be crude and easily debunked fakes?

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My sentiments exactly. The Israelis are so full of hubris that they don't even try to make their "evidence" look convincing.

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Linda…abortion is off the table. It never should have been a Federal matter. The difference between Trump and Harris on abortion is of Zero importance because SCOTUS ruled it is a States matter, not a Federal matter. There is nothing either Trump or Harris/Biden can do about it. Therefore all that matters in the Presidential race are Federal matters. The border and wars being the two most important issues. And the third being fsir trade. Are you for open borders and do you want the Ukraine and Gaza conflicts going on? That is what you are voting for. All this ‘trump will turn the US into the Handmaid’s Tale is nonsense. However, open borders will. Talk to people in Sweden. Women won’t go out at night anymore. Because immigrants think ‘slutty woman, out at night; not with a male relative…she’s halal.’ She can be taken. It isn’t a sin to them. You’re the sinner for wearing yoga pants! Everything is about abortion to young Lib women. Take it to the State Capitols. The Dems and the Rs sold out the US worker. They destroyed the rust belt. Both parties. One guy, not his party changed that. Trump. The Auto industry is toast under Harris. Not under Trump. The other unexplainable issue is the Dems have gone all in on sexually mutilating children. It is beyond belief.

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"Outrage" at Hamas!!!? Are you not aware of the FACT that the overwhelming majority of the Israelis killed on October 7, 2024 were killed by Israeli Helicopter gun Ships and Tank fire? Are you not aware that EVERY SINGLE allegation put forth by the Israeli government about "sexual violence, beheaded babies, and other murderous atrocities" was deliberate mendacious propaganda, invented for the mens rea purpose of "justifying" genocide in Gaza? It's being ADMITTED NOW in Israel by Haaretz! Where is YOUR OUTRAGE at the GENOCIDE in Gaza?

And by the way, trying to put all this on Netanyahu is convenient for the Democratic Party elite, but does not stand up to the evidence in Israel; the overwhelming majority of Israelis SUPPORT Netanyahu's Genocide against Palestinian men, women AND Children. Blinken REFUSES to admit the documented, irrefutable fact (reinforced almost daily with every new massacre with U.S. BOMBS dropped on Gaza by the IDF) that Netanyahu's IDF is engaging in Genocide.

July 19, 2024

How Israel massacred Israeli children, then blamed it on Hamas , with David Sheen

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg2187/#msg2187

Somebody needs to sue ALL the mainstream media AND the Israeli Government for the serial repeated abominable slander against the successful military operation by Hamas on October 7, 2023. That day NO men, women or children were sexually abused by Hamas, PERIOD.

Furthermore, MOST of the Israelis killed that day were killed by IDF helicopter and tank fire! 70 cars that were INCINERATED is IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE of this MASS Hannibal ATROCITY of Israel against its own citizens! All the bold faced mendacity filled stories about "sexual violence against and/or mass incineration of Israeli captives by Hamas" must be RETRACTED by the Biden Administration, the UK, the BBC AND anyone else, including the New York Times and Washington Post et al, that have contributed to spreading these Israeli DESPICABLE LIES.

The TRUTH that on October 7, 2023 MOST of the Israeli deaths were CAUSED by IDF helicopter and tank fire, AND NO Israelies were victims of sexual violence, needs to be REPEATED EVERY DAY UNTIL Israeli LIES about Hamas that day are totally exposed AND the DELIBERATE MURDER of MOST of the Israeli captives, along with their Hamas captors driving the 70 cars that were INCINERATED BY IDF Helicopters and tanks that day, can no longer be denied by Israel, the USA AND Europe!

July 14, 2024 The Grayzone

Aaron Maté debates Israeli army propagandist

https://youtu.be/TEpCMbxL18w

your allegation, in regard to weapons shipments by the USA facilitating Israel's Genocide in Gaza, that Biden "doesn’t have that kind of control", is not factual. Believing the POTUS "cannot stop" weapons shipments to Israel, without which the IDF could NOT have bombed Gaza for more than a month, never mind NINE MONTHS OF GENOCIDE, is wishful thinking, to put it mildly.

February 06, 2024

The "duty to prevent genocide" is NOT optional. It is codified in Jus Cogens International Law. The U.S. et al ARE GUILTY of violating Jus Cogens.

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg1740/?topicseen#msg1740

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Do you think trump would stop the genocide? If not, then this is not as simple as you make it. Voting for nobody is not an option. It's self defeating. Are you sure what Kamala will do when she is elected?

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Are you denying the Biden admin is facilitating Israel's genocide of Gaza? You avoided addressing that and went with "it's complicated" instead.

I will be voting for Jill Stein of the Green Party, the only anti-genocide candidate in the race. Harris needs to make a demonstrable commitment to stopping Israel to earn our votes.

It is self-defeating to vote Dem otherwise: You are telling them they can go so far as genocide and still get your vote. That is fascism, habibi.

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Thanks Dennis! You have always been a bright light in the political darkness, to which the Democrat party especially has succumbed. Too much wealth and power in too few hands...

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Thanks for the expose. The squelching of Marianne, whose progressive agenda would be what the visionless Democratic Party needs, has been a travesty of what is democratic. Kamala is the choice of one person, Biden. That there isn't a hue adn cry about it is frustrating. We're just whimpering here, Dennis. Even Kamala taking a meeting with Marianne could give us progressive juice we so could use.

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Why is this coming out now Dennis.............!

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Dennis, please get behind Kamala. Our democracy depends on it.

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LOL, the United States has been neither a democracy nor a democratic republic for a long time now, but an oligarchy featuring unlimited political bribery for those who can afford pricey lawyers.

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True.

he U.S. is not now, or ever has been, anything but an oligarchy = TPTB with Representative Republic pseudo-democratic pig lipstick.

However, we certainly HAVE ALWAYS BEEN a Bastion of Liberty for TPTB.

From the first time I became dimly aware of this pseudo-democratic situtation we-the-people have in the USA, I dispensed with politics and/or ideology or even economic systems, and just looked at the election voting math.

So, here (VERY briefly) is what I came up with:

1789 George Washington elected POTUS

1790 Total US Population = 3,929,326, of which 813,365 were Free white males 16 and over, of which adult landed white males (Assuming all adult landed white males voted – a logical assumption for the first election), 100% of eligible voters in that election = ONLY 43,782!

The Constitution math on the population count to trigger another Representative slot in the House (30,000 for the first Rep, and more than 30,000 for an added Rep, and so on) was “acceptable” ONLY if all adult humans had been eligible to vote, which our Founding Fathers Oligarchs made sure was NOT the case.

It requires a great deal of wishful thinking based imagination, which too many of my fellow Americans suffer from, to say THAT is a “Representative Republic”, never mind anything remotely resembling a “democracy”.

The Senate was Oligarchy Heaven from the start, so there is no point in even talking about the Senate.

Then there was 1913, when our “House of Representatives” total count was (UNConstitutionally) corked, to make certain that every vote counted less and less, as the population grew.

Of course, after that, and even when Jim Crow voter suppression was addressed (sort of) later on with the Voting Rights Act (which was trashed some years ago by the Roberts Supremely Fascist Court), all that women voting and Native Americans voting, and other lipstick on the undemocratic US pig, did nothing to stop the increase in olgarchic POWER.

2008 Barak Obama elected

2010 Total US (Resident) Population 308,745,538

90% of registered voters voted.

TOTAL Registered voters – 225,499,000 (That sure looks democratic, but the Oligarchic devil is in the Duopoly and House max Rep Count details, never mind the Duopoly Party elites who decide who is on the ballot for POTUS.).

So, way back in 1789, the EXTREME MINORITY (go ahead and figure what percentage 50,000 “eligible voters” is of 4 million people… SEE: OLIGARCHY from the GETGO!) REPRESENTED BY White Landed Men had ONE Representative Congress Critter per 30,000 Population.

Just as of 2010 (it’s even worse NOW in 2024), with all the “added eligible voters”, we Progressed (SEE: ORWELL) to ONE Representative Congress Critter per MORE THAN 700,000 Population (SEE: OLIGARCHY).

Famous Last Words:

“The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.” — Thomas Jefferson

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/geopolitics/us-politics/msg2146/#msg2146

COUNTERPUNCH

JULY 12, 2024 BY 🕯️🗽 ANIS SHIVANI

The Empire, Not Just Biden, Has Dementia

SNIPPETS:

Trump came along with his fake working-class grievances and the simplistic reduction of the world to those who belonged and those who didn’t in the wake of a neoliberalism that had reached the end of its persuasiveness for non-believers.

To resuscitate what was left of the American empire, what was then needed was a vacant mind, a vacant stare, a man who came so far from the past—a literal walking zombie from the era before consciousness of race and class registered even on neoliberal terms—that global military aggression could proceed apace again, as if the last fifty years hadn’t happened.

It is as if the last fifty years of even gestural progress in social justice terms hadn’t occurred.

https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg2172/#msg2172

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Keep in mind that The Founding Fathers, for the most part, looked at democracy with horror as antithetical to property.

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Yep. They were, however, irony challenged, to put it mildly. They set up a racist oligarchy, while claiming it was a government OF, BY and FOR, "We the People".

Let's do the math again on that. George Washington was elected with a little less that 43,000 votes (participation was over 90 % of "eligible" voters = White Landed Men) in a population of 4 MILLION humans.

We the People? You have got to be kidding.

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I guess you didn't read the article. Kamala is proof that the Democratic Party broke American democracy.

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We all voted Biden-Harris last I checked. I appreciate Dennis but we must stop Trump.

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Who is "we"?

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My thoughts exactly. I haven't voted D since the 2016 primary and I never will again, not the way they're going. And no amount of deranged rageporn or fearporn about a painfully obviously made up threat is changing that.

I might vote RFK. I would leap to vote for Dennis. But I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for the outright antidemocratic fascism I've been seeing from the D party since 2016. And you can save your breath with the " but Trump...", if it hasn't worked for the last eight years, it's not going to work at all.

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No wars. First Peace President in my lifetime. Brought back manufacturing. Re negotiated trade deals. Lowest black unemployment ever. First growth in real take home pay in decades. And now ‘Our Democracy’ has us racing towards WWIII!! The border is gone. Our cities are hell holes. Kamala is completely unprincipled. You might think you dislike Trump’s personality, fair enough. But do you want open borders? Do you want WWIII? Are you insane?

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Made a deal with Taliban, released 500 fighters, raised tarrif barriers raising prices and American jobs, Lowest Black unemployment is under Biden, Take home pay under Biden higher, cowtowed to Putin, sold secrets, stole secret documents when subpoened, disrupted a border deal for “political” reasons, our cities support all the red jobs and are only hell-holes in the minds of MAGAts,

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Nope. All wrong. Top to bottom. But your Universe doesn’t exist. I can’t make you see how horrible the left has become if you can’t see it yourself.

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Here's another Liberal Elite..............VOTE Blue like you life depends on it!

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Trump Trump Trump

A very famous Democrat, FDR, said, "There is nothing to fear but fear itself. Sounds like very few Democrats were listening.

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I live with a TDS sufferer, I hear the carefully manufactured talking points every day and still don't buy it, yet that doesn't stop other True Blue-ievers from screaming the, at me, as if saying it again but louder is going to convince me.

I have been immune to fearporn since I was a kid. I don't base my views on scare tactics and find the more anyone tries to create a intense and immediate terror in me, the more important it is not to take them at face value and look at it calmly. Fear is a weapon used to short circuit rational thought, and I have never seen a more obvious evidence of that as I have since Trump came on the scene and i watched formerly lucid Dems (people I was a fellow Democrat with, people I thought were above this) lose their minds. Except for maybe the covid debacle, though that was also insanely politicized.

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How would you compare this to the process by which JD Vance got on the ballot?

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Assuming that this was an honest question - Trump, for better or worse, won the Team R primary contest against Nikki Haley, then chose Vance as his running mate.

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It's a sort of honest question.

NOBODY voted for JDV in any primary.

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He wasn't running, and nowhere is it written that a presidential candidate must choose a running mate who ran in the primaries.

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Precisely. So Vance should just shut up about the Dems 'undemocratic' process.

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Trump, who is running, was elected in the Team R primary.

Team D did everything in its power to avoid subjecting Biden to a primary, and Harris never faced a primary.

You're basically using dishonest arguments to attack candidates you don't like.

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Good question.

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The DNC are a bunch of fascist they are the anti Democratic Party

Trump wants to play demogaogue

America is an oligarchy . It has been since 1984

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Well Ollie, here's another fine mess you've gotten us into....

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